# Missing groups editing
**URL:** https://support.blue-systems.com/t/missing-groups-editing/3288
**Category:** Netrunner 16
**Created:** [July 10, 2015, 9:08am UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/missing-groups-editing/3288 "2015-07-10T09:08:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@Oceanwatcher](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/Oceanwatcher)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2015, 9:08am UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/missing-groups-editing/3288/1 "2015-07-10T09:08:06Z")
I have searched, but not found. maybe I am searching for the wrong thing as I am not a native English speaker…
It seems to me I can not find a way to really administrate users and groups.
The user administration is very simple and I am not able to change any groups there.
I am trying to set up a guest account. On my installation, not guest user is present. I have made a guest user, but need to add it to the guest group.
I would like to have it so that it copies the settings from a separate account every time it is rebooted. This is my guide:
[https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession](https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGuestSession)
I could never get the normal Guest session set to automatic login, so I need a real account for it.
I hope this makes sense.
What tool can be used to edit groups (no CLI please - and I do not even want to discuss why)?
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### Author:  [@AJSlye](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/AJSlye)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/missing-groups-editing/3288/2 "2015-07-10T17:21:32Z")
The user-manager kcm isn’t an official release from KDE as yet, and it is supposed to be a basic tool. To do what you need to do, you would need to use the command line or the old/trusted Kuser application.
```auto
sudo apt-get install kuser
```
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### Author:  [@Oceanwatcher](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/Oceanwatcher)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/missing-groups-editing/3288/3 "2015-07-10T18:03:32Z")
I will check out kuser. Thank you very much!
In the previous version I used of Netrunner, I was alloed to set the Guest login as automatic, so it logged directly in as Guest. This is not possible in the latest version. Is it a bug, or is there a reason why it was removed?