# \[solved\] Netrunner 19.01 desktop bup utility
**URL:** https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613
**Category:** Netrunner 19.01
**Created:** [February 7, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613 "2019-02-07T21:05:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author:  [@heliosstyx](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/heliosstyx)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/1 "2019-02-07T21:05:25Z")
I want to use the KDE backup-program **kup** , but this program needs the bup-utility. I can’t find it in the repositories, what can I do? Thank you.
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### Author:  [@AJSlye](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/AJSlye)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/2 "2019-02-07T23:19:59Z")
> [@heliosstyx](#):
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> bup-utility
The package name is just bup, not bup-utility, and it is in the repositories.
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### Author:  [@heliosstyx](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/heliosstyx)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 9:31am UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/3 "2019-02-08T09:31:09Z")
I know that it’s name is just bup. Yesterday evening there was no bup in the repositories. I am using Netrunner 19.01 with continuous update. I will try it today again, if there is no bup you will hear from me again. Thank you.
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### Author:  [@AJSlye](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/AJSlye)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/4 "2019-02-08T11:10:26Z")
I do apologize, you were right, bup is not in the buster repository:
[https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bup](https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bup)
Kup-backup is in the buster repository though:
[https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kup](https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kup)
That is very strange considering the same version of bup is available in stretch and sid.
However, for kup-backup, bup is listed as only a recommends not a dependency.
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### Author:  [@leszek](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/leszek)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/5 "2019-02-08T11:21:05Z")
Bup got removed in 2017 from testing (now buster): [https://tracker.debian.org/news/890874/bup-removed-from-testing/](https://tracker.debian.org/news/890874/bup-removed-from-testing/)
I highly doubt it will be integrated again and would suggest taking a look at another Backup application like BackInTime for example.
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### Author:  [@AJSlye](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/AJSlye)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/6 "2019-02-08T11:22:29Z")
Kup only needs bup if you need to use the packfile format from git.
Then why is bup still in stretch and sid?
This all just still seems a bit strange, especially since kup-backup itself, is **only** available in buster and sid.
[https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kup-backup](https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kup-backup)
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### Author:  [@leszek](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/leszek)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/7 "2019-02-08T12:34:20Z")
> [@](#):
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> Then why is bup still in stretch and sid?
Stretch is stable. If nothing severe no package will get removed from here.
As for Sid it looks like a no one cleaned it up. Not sure what the deal is with that package in all honesty.
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### Author:  [@heliosstyx](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/heliosstyx)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/8 "2019-02-08T12:52:53Z")
Okay. Thank you. I suggest to remove the kup package too, because it’s inconsistent when bup is not here, because bup is power full for versioning.
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### Author:  [@heliosstyx](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/heliosstyx)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/10 "2019-02-08T13:25:22Z")
Is it possible without high risks to get bup via direct debian download stable? Or should I do not download it directly? Thank you.
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### Author:  [@AJSlye](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/AJSlye)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/11 "2019-02-08T13:27:31Z")
While I wouldn’t suggest using packages outside of your branch for the possibly issues this can cause.
The one in stable is older (0.25-1), If it was me I would go for the more up-to-date version in sid (0.29-3).
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### Author:  [@leszek](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/leszek)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/12 "2019-02-08T14:04:33Z")
Yeah I would also recommend using the Sid version then if you want to use this piece of software. Usually it should work fine. But there is no guarantee
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### Author:  [@heliosstyx](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/heliosstyx)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/13 "2019-02-08T14:05:13Z")
Thank you. I am wondering that bup is in SID but not in Buster. Could the reason be that code-freezing for buster begins?
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### Author:  [@AJSlye](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/AJSlye)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/14 "2019-02-08T16:23:12Z")
That’s actually a great question.
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### Author:  [@heliosstyx](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/heliosstyx)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/15 "2019-02-08T17:55:26Z")
Is there any way to get an automated message when a certain debian package comes into “testing”?
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### Author:  [@leszek](https://support.blue-systems.com/u/leszek)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://support.blue-systems.com/t/solved-netrunner-19-01-desktop-bup-utility/4613/16 "2019-02-08T18:27:58Z")
I think you can only check this for specific packages like here the News section. Not sure if this can be handled via a subscription to a mailinglist somewhere.
[https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bup](https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bup)