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Netrunner pre-13.12 Forums?


#1

Hi

where have the forums for the releases previous to 13.12 gone? I still have production machines with 13.06 and even Dryland running and need some help…

Best,

Daniel


#2

If you wan’t to be secure I would suggest upgrading to Netrrunner 14 LTS.

Netrunner 13.06 & Netrunner 13.12 are both based on Kubuntu standard releases which are only supported for 18 months, thus 13.06 is no longer receiving updates. Netrunner 14 is based off kubuntu 14.04 which is an LTS and will receive system & security updates for 5 years.


#3

I thought the non-LTS have a support of 1.5 or 2 years?!

These are production machines and have a lot of stuff installed which works just fine now. It would be a tremendous amount of work to upgrade, which I cannot afford, as much as I would like to see and test Netrunner 14.
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Since it seems you have edited your reply, let me update: Enigma (one of the two) was also based on LTS and should have 5-year support. And 13.06 plus 18 months makes December 2014, some time to go. And I think security updates should go through after that.


#4

I hate to say that Non-LTS releases are only supported for 18 month upstream and they will receive no more updates, sorry.


#5

Ok. But still that should be until the end of this year for Netrunner 13.06, doesnt it (June 2013 plus 18 months)? And for Netrunner 4.2 Dryland – Second Edition (based on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS “precise”), released on 2012-06-20, that should make something like June 2017?


#6

All the previous posts from 2013 and up have been consolidated in the Netrunner 13.12 Thread:
http://forums.netrunner-os.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=4&page=29
We switched the forum, so it wasnt really feasible to distinguish them as of recently with Netrunner 14 and Rolling.


#7

Thanks for answering the original question, Starbuck.

Since it came up, can you confirm that the support times of the mentioned releases are approximately as calculated in the previous post?


#8

Yes you are absolutely right. other than you posted Enigma instead of Dryland Secound Edition in your second post and that threw me a bit, but hey we all make mistakes, :slight_smile:

Netrunner 4.2 Dryland Second Edition was based on an LTS so it will receive updates for 5 years: June 2017
Netrunner 13.06 Enigma was not an LTS so you will only get updates for 18 months: December 2014.
Please, keep in mind that these are primarily only security updates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netrunner_(operating_system)#Release_history


#9

It seems we were mistaken! By coincidence (really), today the updates stopped both for 13.04 and 13.10, because the support time was halved to 9 months. See here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/ubuntu-to-halve-support-window-for-regular-releases

What do you think of the following solution, essentially saying to change the entries in sources.list to start with http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/

http://askubuntu.com/questions/405699/does-apt-get-stop-working-after-support-ends/405703#405703

Again, I have a highly personalised production machine running netrunner 13.06, so I am at a bit of a loss here and could need help.


#10

Personally, I would just wait for an update script from the release team.


#11

Upgrade Script for 13.12 to 14 upgrade is now available. (see the homepage)


#12

I guess it would still be a lot of work for me. Just a few points I would like to know before deciding:

  • I guess from 13.04 I first have to upgrade to 13.12?

  • What about third party software, e.g. installed by .deb file, or through a PPA, or compiled locally from source? I guess this all has to be re-done manually, with all the associated compatibility problems?

  • What about all the personalized settings, e.g. all the customized program options (e.g. Thunderbird with multiple accounts), shell-scripts, and ssh-keys? Which of these will be still there after an upgrade (from 13.04 to 13.12 and then to 14)?


#13

Exactly.

Manually installed deb files that aren’t in the repository shouldn’t be a problem as long as their compatibility and dependencies are met.
PPAs could be a problem here if they don’t provide newer packages for the newer ubuntu base.
Locally installed applications might be a problem and need perhaps recompile.

[quote]- What about all the personalized settings, e.g. all the customized program options (e.g. Thunderbird with multiple accounts), shell-scripts, and ssh-keys? Which of these will be still there after an upgrade (from 13.04 to 13.12 and then to 14)?
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Personalized settings are usually located in your home directory and shouldn’t be affected by the upgrade. However I would recommend to create an backup.
Some applications need to upgrade the configuration profiles (firefox, thunderbird, kdepim) and this might cause data loss. therefore always create an backup while upgrading.