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[solved] Netrunner 19.01 desktop bup utility


#1

I want to use the KDE backup-program kup, but this program needs the bup-utility. I can’t find it in the repositories, what can I do? Thank you.


#2

The package name is just bup, not bup-utility, and it is in the repositories.


#3

I know that it’s name is just bup. Yesterday evening there was no bup in the repositories. I am using Netrunner 19.01 with continuous update. I will try it today again, if there is no bup you will hear from me again. Thank you.


#4

I do apologize, you were right, bup is not in the buster repository:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bup

Kup-backup is in the buster repository though:
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kup

That is very strange considering the same version of bup is available in stretch and sid.

However, for kup-backup, bup is listed as only a recommends not a dependency.


#5

Bup got removed in 2017 from testing (now buster): https://tracker.debian.org/news/890874/bup-removed-from-testing/

I highly doubt it will be integrated again and would suggest taking a look at another Backup application like BackInTime for example.


#6

Kup only needs bup if you need to use the packfile format from git.

Then why is bup still in stretch and sid?

This all just still seems a bit strange, especially since kup-backup itself, is only available in buster and sid.

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kup-backup


#7

Stretch is stable. If nothing severe no package will get removed from here.
As for Sid it looks like a no one cleaned it up. Not sure what the deal is with that package in all honesty.


#8

Okay. Thank you. I suggest to remove the kup package too, because it’s inconsistent when bup is not here, because bup is power full for versioning.


#10

Is it possible without high risks to get bup via direct debian download stable? Or should I do not download it directly? Thank you.


#11

While I wouldn’t suggest using packages outside of your branch for the possibly issues this can cause.
The one in stable is older (0.25-1), If it was me I would go for the more up-to-date version in sid (0.29-3).


#12

Yeah I would also recommend using the Sid version then if you want to use this piece of software. Usually it should work fine. But there is no guarantee


#13

Thank you. I am wondering that bup is in SID but not in Buster. Could the reason be that code-freezing for buster begins?


#14

That’s actually a great question.


#15

Is there any way to get an automated message when a certain debian package comes into “testing”?


#16

I think you can only check this for specific packages like here the News section. Not sure if this can be handled via a subscription to a mailinglist somewhere.
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bup