Based on the latest Manjaro 0.8.13 base system, we are proud to present an early preview release of Netrunner Rolling 15.06 (beta 3) for testing.
This release includes the following changes from previous releases:
New development process based on the official Manjaro-tools set
Linux 3.18 kernel chosen for stability and long-term support status.
Plasma 5.3.1 DE based on KDE Frameworks 5.10.0
KDE Applications 15.04.1
Calamares replaces Thus.
Cheese replaces Komoso
Skanlite replaces simplescan
Audacious replaces Qmmp
New applications included:
Gmusicbrowser
KDEConnect
Plasma-Volume-Control (Pulse Audio compatible mixer control and applet)
Warning:
Do not install and test this ISO in a production environment or on a mission critical system, this early preview ISO intended for testing and feedback purposes ONLY.
The default user name is netruner (typo that was fixed for the next ISO), all passwords were disabled in the live session.
NOTE: There is an issue with Calamares RC2 and the zramswap partitions being added to the installed systems fstab, This has been fixed and will be included in the next ISO with Calamares RC3. For now the solution to this issue is to stop the zramswap.sevice prior to running Calamares from the Live Media:
systemctl stop zramswap
Please leave any comments, suggestions or issues you find here in this thread.
First of all, I thank everyone concerned for their efforts in making this beta available but I have to agree, it does look a little outdated and I feel that it lacks impact out of the box. Perhaps a bit of work on the artwork would give it more impact?
I’m not an artist so I used what was available for the artwork, if you have any specific ideas in this area please submit them and we will consider them.
I apologize flipper, but I don’t know what you mean by the new program runner?
OK, you meant the old, but reworked, kickstart launcher, now re-named Application Launcher. The one we are using is the Application Menu launcher that was originally developed as the Homerun Kicker Menu, a Blue Systems sponsored project that the KDE community has since incorporated and taken over development of.
There also has to be a certain level of consistency between the Rolling (Manjaro) and the standard (Kubuntu) editions of Netrunner. This means that certain choices in default applications and the use of Blue Systems sponsored and/or developed components is necessary. If you’ll also notice that the task manager used in the panel is our own Expanding Icons Task Manager, the themes used are the Blue Systems developed, carbon, enlightenment, oxygen-cold, etc., once Muon is considered to be ready, stable and reach feature parity under Manjaro/Arch as it is under Ubuntu/Debian based systems, then it too may possibly be incorporated as the default package manager GUI replacing Octopi.
PS. Keep in mind also that all of these things can and probably will be changed by the end user when personalizing their own systems. This is a rolling release system after all and as such, NO update should ever change the look and feel of the end users desktop once their systems are installed and personalized. It is meant to be installed only once and then just updated for the life time of the system, the only reason for new ISO releases periodically is so that there are not a million updates right after a new or fresh installation.
After installing to my HDD, I’m getting a NINETY second delay between Plymouth finishing and the Login screen appearing. Following a lot of digging around, I’ve discovered that I have three swap partitions listed in /etc/fstab - eh??
[code]# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
Use ‘blkid’ to print the universally unique identifier for a device; this may
be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices that works even if
The first swap partition is the real one but where the other two have come from is a mystery. I’ve deleted the two rogue swap partition entries, rebooted and the delay is now down to 12 seconds, which is normal. Any ideas why there were 3 swap partition entries?
Phil Müller has given me a link to iso of netrunner 2015.06.beta3, because I want to test current calamares on an arch based distrie. Thanks for offering another distrie which makes it easy to install arch based stuff. I’ve installed new Netrunner Rolling preview and some questions:
Calamares let me install grub2 also in / partition, but it seems, that this does not work when having a logical partition as root partition. grub2 installation has hanged for some minutes, then I’ve closed calamares. After a reboot into Antergos and an update of grub entries now I’m able to start netrunner. calamares developer should add another function for handling grub: A possibility to deselect it like in installer of debian, siduction, opensuse …
I want to modify kf5 settings, but when I start systemsettings then I get the old version of kde4. Why do you offer this old piece of KDE 4 software in a kf5 environement? All distries with kf5, I’ve tested (Antergos, siduction, Manjaro, openSUSE tumbleweed) offer systemsettings5.
Appart from fancy artwork stuff where is the difference between Manjaro 0.8.13 kf5 and current netrunner rolling?
In 2015.06 we feature calamares instead of thus (since calamares is already a Blue Systems product).
We also ship carbon, our own derived theme for Plasma5/GTK instead of Breeze, ship Expanding Icons Taskmanager and some more stuff, a different selection of apps and settings, etc.
Since some of the stuff initially developed and maintained by Blue Systems like Kicker, Firefox-KDE, gtk-settings for gtk2/gtk3, etc. from blueshell has been adopted upstream, there seem to be a little less “exclusives”, so its just in general we take another angle at Plasma5 and try to polish and add things in a different direction, which then, if we do a good job, could end up taken upstream again.
We do ship with systemsettings5 by default, but we have modified the category listings for Netrunner Rolling to match Netrunner Standard. I also edited some of our .desktop files to load using the correct kcmsell5 instead of kcmshell4. If you would rather have the stock Plasma 5 look and feel for System Settings then you only need to delete the hidden folder ~.local/share/kservices5 from your home directory. If you decide that you liked our categories better then you would just need to copy ~.local/share/kservices5 back into your home directory from ./etc/skel.
The next RC ISO will ship with Calamares RC3 or even RC4, in RC3 there were major improvements to the partition manager plugin that solved many of the issues present in Calamares RC2 on our Beta 3 ISO.
We do ship with systemsettings5 by default, but we have modified the category listings for Netrunner Rolling to match Netrunner Standard.
Ah okay, then I’ll delete the folder kservices5, because I like the new systemsettings more than the older of kde4.
The next RC ISO will ship with Calamares RC3 or even RC4, in RC3 there were major improvements to the partition manager plugin that solved many of the issues present in Calamares RC2 on our Beta 3 ISO.
Good to know, but please don’t ignore the whish of some people to deselect grub installation. In some cases of multiboot systems you can have trouble if there is no possibility to deselct installation of boot manager. Apropos grub: It would be nice not adapting manjaro’s strange behavior of handling intel-ucode. In distributions like debian, siduction, opensuse and other such stuff is put into initramfs.img, but in manjaro and also in netrunner rolling you can find an extra intel-ucode.img in boot directory. This special way causes incompatibility with grub of other distributions. This issue is described in the following thread: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=23430.0
I have something for calamares whishlist: A new and nice feature that you can’t find in other installers would be the possibility to manage swap files.
The next days I’ll work with netrunner rolling and will give further feedback.
after the installation my FN+volume up, volume down and mute cease to work. My FN+brightness up and brightness down work propely. I think it’s not a problem related only to netrunner/manjaro because the behaviour in kaos is the same. In Debian it’s ok.
Any thoughts?
Regards
Paulo
AJSlyeBased on the latest Manjaro 0.8.13 base system, we are proud to present an early preview release of Netrunner Rolling 15.06 (beta 3) for testing.
This release includes the following changes from previous releases:
New development process based on the official Manjaro-tools set
Linux 3.18 kernel chosen for stability and long-term support status.
Plasma 5.3.1 DE based on KDE Frameworks 5.10.0
KDE Applications 15.04.1
Calamares replaces Thus.
Cheese replaces Komoso
Skanlite replaces simplescan
Audacious replaces Qmmp
New applications included:
Gmusicbrowser
KDEConnect
Plasma-Volume-Control (Pulse Audio compatible mixer control and applet)
Warning:
Do not install and test this ISO in a production environment or on a mission critical system, this early preview ISO intended for testing and feedback purposes ONLY.
The default user name is netruner (typo that was fixed for the next ISO), all passwords were disabled in the live session.
NOTE: There is an issue with Calamares RC2 and the zramswap partitions being added to the installed systems fstab, This has been fixed and will be included in the next ISO with Calamares RC3. For now the solution to this issue is to stop the zramswap.sevice prior to running Calamares from the Live Media:
systemctl stop zramswap
Please leave any comments, suggestions or issues you find here in this thread.
Thanks for clarification. But is there however a possibility to change this to avoid issus for users which a multiboot system? Adapting it from arch doesn’t make it better
Apart from that, thanks for your work. Besides siduction I also like arch based stuff, Antergos, Manjaro and Netrunner Rolling are fast and easy installable, fast and easy upgradable, administration is simple and the possibility to downgrade current cups 2 to cups 1.7.5 without any trouble (I need clients with cups 1.7.5 in my lan) is a great feature. And another point: german is native language for me, siduction, manjaro, antergos and netrunner rolling present kf5 in german, there is no mixture of german and english. There is a linux distribution, having its origin in germany, now be pushed by a big software company, having a lot of developers and they are not able to integrate kf5 stuff with proper localisation since a lot of weeks.
